Dorothy: [00:00:00] As the CEO of CLS Health, which is a physician owned healthcare group, Megan Owen is focused on rebuilding trust between providers and patients. She’s especially interested in communities that have been historically underserved or overlooked, and she’s totally passionate about reshaping healthcare for women and their families.
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Megan, thanks so much for being with us today. We’re, we’re just so honored that you’ve come to be on this podcast.
Megan: Well, thank you for having me. I’m happy to be here.
Dorothy: So you have a long history in healthcare?
Megan: I do. Over two decades. Yes.
Dorothy: Yes. And almost always as a leader. Almost always COO, CEO. So what in the world convinced you to become CEO [00:02:00] of CLS, which is, tell us about it, tell us how, um. How you got there.
Megan: Sure. Yeah. So, um, I would say probably about 10 years ago I was actually at HCA Clear Lake, uh, with the phenomenal leader who pulled me aside one day and said, you are the right person, but the wrong role. You need to be in leadership. And I was sort of surprised whenever he said that.
And he started putting me in different meetings and listening to different, um, other leaders speak and I thought, this is pretty exciting. Maybe this is the route that I wanna take. And over the next few years, he helped mold me. I went back and got my MBA, um, and then I, I took a role on the surgery center side of HCA and then eventually left and went to Houston Eye Associates as their COO.
And one of the doctors that were at Bay Area Regional actually, uh, recommended me for that position. And I thought, you know, let me you know, put all of my eggs in one basket and go for it. And I did. And working at Houston Eye Associates was a [00:03:00] great learning experience for me because it was a physician-owned practice.
And after about five years there, I actually decided I was going to retire. And yes. And, um, I was home for about six weeks and I had a conversation with Dr. Dwe and he said, why don’t you come in and talk with me? And Dr. Bob, we’re looking for a CEO. Um, and you know, back in Webster, which I’m from, the Pearlan Friendswood area, so it was kind of exciting to get back into town and we had about an hour conversation and I called my husband and he said, is your retirement over? And I said, yes. He goes, it lasted six weeks. And I said, I know, but after speaking with Dr. Bob and Dr. Dwe about CLS, I knew it was where I needed to be. They have a mission of being in every single community in the Houston area and really living and working in that community and doing what’s best for the patients who live there.
And it’s something that just hit me. They, they were, um, a party of two when I first met them back in my Clear Lake days at [00:04:00] HCA, so I’ve known them for a long time. But to see how they’ve grown and what their mission is and to really stay provider owned, provider and patient focused. That was just, it just resonated with me.
Dorothy: So what makes a provider own facility different?
Megan: It allows ’em to practice medicine the way they want to practice, and then we take care of everything behind the scenes that really can muddle up healthcare. And the doctors get to focus on the patients. And that is sometimes lost in some of the other types of organizations that are out there. And it’s something that Dr. Bob and Dr. Dwe really push is. You know, provider owned allows them to take care of their patients.
Dorothy: Do, do you think they have a special focus on women and, and the needs of women?
Megan: I do think that is a very specific focus that we do have. Um, right now we have, um, a few OBGYNs, but we’re hoping by the year of 2030 to have 200 OBGYNs across the, um, the Houston area. We have a small oncology and plastics department now, but we’re looking to [00:05:00] grow both of those across the city. Also, we want to focus on the underserved areas, which is something that I know you all focus on as well, which I think is why we have a good partnership and I, I think that it’s something that’s just very important, especially with value-based care medicine. One of the, the metrics that they look at is for patients to get mammograms. And so our primary care doctors focus on every time a patient comes in, have you had your mammogram for the year? And it’s something that is very important. You know, preventative care is the best, you know, way we can handle ourselves.
Dorothy: Right. So do you think that when it comes to breast health, when it comes to preventive medicine, when it comes to, uh, what a woman. Could do for herself. You know, we don’t use shoulds here. What, what do you think CLS is doing that’s making it more comprehensive? Making it more accessible to women?
Megan: That’s a good question. I think that they are ensuring that the patients around [00:06:00] Houston where we are, ’cause we’re not in Webster anymore, we’re, we’re everywhere. Uh, we have 37 locations all over Houston that they know where their resources are. And that they know where they can go to get care.
Dorothy: And that, and, and many of your doctors are very involved in the community.
Megan: They are very, yes.
Dorothy: I think that is one of the distinctions. So that patients aren’t just seeing them behind the white.
Megan: Right.
Dorothy: Jacket, you know, they are seeing them as people, part of the community caring.
Megan: Well, and, and when we hire doctors for certain locations, we really want them to live in the locations where they are practicing. So if we go into the heights, we like our doctors to live in the heights or somewhere close to it so they can take part in the community where they are seeing where their kids go to school, you know, where they go to the grocery store, where they become, you know, a part of that community and they’re not just there to work and take a paycheck.
Dorothy: So almost every specialty is, is offered.
Megan: It is.
Dorothy: Right. So after being in this world for so long, I, I continue to be amazed that women either don’t know [00:07:00] the importance of mammography, don’t know how to access it, or are just too afraid to go and have a mammogram. And have you found that in what you’ve been doing as a CEO or as a friend?
Megan: Absolutely. In fact, about two weeks ago, I had a conversation with a girlfriend of mine who said, well, I’m not gonna get a mammogram. It may hurt. And I said, okay, let’s have a conversation about this. ‘Cause every year on my birthday, I give myself a, I make my appointment for my mammogram. That’s my gift to myself.
And it is because, you know, I had an aunt who had breast cancer. My mom’s best friend, who was like a second mother to me, had breast cancer. And it’s something that is just so unbelievably important to do for yourself.
Dorothy: Right.
Megan: And so when I hear that, it still shocks me that today people don’t want to go out and, and do preventative care. I mean, knowledge is so unbelievably important. It’s the only way we can take care of ourselves.
Dorothy: You know, and the other part of all that is, is we may, we didn’t always have this privilege. We may not always have it. I mean, think about the, the changes in mammography and [00:08:00] women’s health.
Megan: Right.
Dorothy: You know, it, it really is. So what did you say to her exactly?
Megan: Well, I, I, I sat her down. I said, okay, we’re gonna need to have a conversation. Why do you think it’s going to hurt? And she said, well, my mom told me, you know, back when she used to get them, they hurt. And I said, okay. As you know, anywhere on television these days, technology has changed. It does not hurt at all. You need to go in, you need to get your, and I made her make her appointment right then.
Dorothy: Whoa.
Megan: And I said, we’re gonna sit down right now and you’re gonna schedule your appointment and you’re not going to cancel it. So she has it next week, so I’m gonna double check with her to make sure that she goes.
Dorothy: Are you going with her?
Megan: No, but I will if she, if she wants me to. Well, I mean, that’s sometimes the only way you can get a friend in.
Dorothy: Yeah. By saying, I’ll meet you there. I’m gonna sit in the waiting room till you get through and. You know, after this something call and tell her, yeah, I may be going with her. The other thing that I’ve found over and over is being a caretaker just pulls so much out of someone. It, it, it’s like not only are you having to take care of yourself, but yourself always gets pushed back when you’re taking care of someone else.
Megan: It does. [00:09:00]
Dorothy: Now you’ve, you’ve known that role. Do you wanna share with us some of that?
Megan: Sure. It’s a little raw ’cause it’s been recent, but I, I’d start with my dad. When my dad had cancer, my mom and I were his caregivers and we went to every appointment with him, sat through every chemo treatment, and I watched my mom over the, it was several year process and and luckily he is in remission still. Um, but I watched her. Do everything she could to still take care of him and try to take care of herself.
And when my husband got sick, um, in last year, early last year, I, I leaned on her a lot to try to figure out how do I balance being a mother. Working the job that I’m in, taking care of my husband and making sure that I keep myself healthy in order to, to support everyone that I was, you know, having to deal with.
And, and it’s difficult because you want to ensure that your, your spouse or a parent, it might be, in my case, it was my spouse, um, that [00:10:00] he was, you know, comfortable whenever he was ill. But even whenever he’s sleeping and you think, okay, I am gonna get rest, and you think, oh, I have to do the laundry. I have to, you know, take care of the house, I need to check on the kids.
Um, and your health can start to, to decline as well. And so it’s, it’s a fine line of how to take care of them physically. And take care of yourself. And then there’s, the mental aspect of it is, you know, what happens if something unfortunate happens or if your spouse doesn’t make it? And, and then what happens if they do and, and it’s a different type of lifestyle or what, you know, there’s so many different what ifs whenever you’re a caregiver that it’s hard to, um, get through it without, you know, some sort of lasting kind of mental, you know, dealings that you have. Hmm. And that’s my, my husband passed away five months ago, and so it was, uh.
Dorothy: I’m so sorry. That’s okay.
Megan: This is the raw part [00:11:00] that’s not always fun.
Dorothy: No, anytime you’re gonna talk about it, it’s gonna be like going through it again.
Megan: Sorry, go ahead.
Dorothy: You said being a mother, how old are your children?
Megan: So we had four boys together. Um, they are 28, 26, 21, and 19.
Dorothy: Wow.
Megan: Yeah. My husband actually passed away on our son’s Sam’s 21st birthday.
Dorothy: Oh…
Megan: Yes. And um.
Dorothy: My gosh.
Megan: He got to see him that morning and then he passed away later that, uh, that day. And, uh, my husband was a phenomenal human, phenomenal father, and taught our kids a lot and, um, taught me a lot too. And so we, we, you know, live with that every single day. We push forward. He used to, he used to wake all the kids up, no one was allowed to sleep past 7:30. And you know, he’d say, get up and get your day started. And so that’s what we still say to each other every day. And you know, we move forward. But the boys are more, um, it’s, it’s funny now if they’re have any sort of ailment, they’re like, I need to go to the doctor and get checked.
Dorothy: Oh really?
Megan: You know, so I think it’s, they, they [00:12:00] were caregivers also. They had to see it, um, you know, in, in different levels. And that’s one thing that I think people forget is the kids actually see their parents dwindling, or their spouse is dwindling down whenever they are ill, and it takes a toll on them also. So it, um, it’s a family affair. Whenever you’re a caregiver, it’s not just one person, it’s, it’s the entire family.
Dorothy: Right. And every disease is a family disease. It is, no matter what you’re going through.
Megan: It is.
Dorothy: I, I’m so amazed at, uh, how many children, and really these are very young, young adults.
Megan: Yeah.
Dorothy: But have had to face this at some point in their life. You know, as we see more younger people developing different types of diseases, it’s, it’s, we just don’t have the tools, we don’t have the coping tools.
Megan: Right.
Dorothy: For it yet. And especially the young adults. How did you, how did, how did you really handle them? Was it, did you just innately know what to do? Did you go outside for some help with [00:13:00] him or?
Megan: With?
Dorothy: Your children?
Megan: With my children, yeah.
Dorothy: As they were going through that.
Megan: We, we stay, we’re, we’re very close knit. And so we stay in touch with, with each other a lot. Every day we talk and.
Dorothy: Still?
Megan: Still Absolutely. Yes. Um, in fact, it’s something that we have made a, a concerted effort to ensure that we’re talking with each other every day. How are you doing? You know? And some days are worse than others. And the question that you hate, I think, when anyone passes, is how are you doing?
Dorothy: Yes.
Megan: So, you know, we try to find different ways to ask that, but. We’ve all been in the same boat. We’ve, we’ve lost the same human. It was a very important to us.
Dorothy: What other ways do you ask that?
Megan: We may just say like, how, how was your day? Is there anything that, that, you know, kind of, you know, that you wanna focus on today? You know, something like that where it’s not just, you know, those words.
Dorothy: Right.
Megan: I think too, when a lot of people say, oh, you know, you’ve handled this so well, you’ve been so strong. I think you’re just in survival mode. And you just get through it. And, and I couldn’t have, um, probably done this without the support of [00:14:00] my family at CLS also. I have a, an amazing support system at home with my, my family, my close friends, our neighbors. Um, everyone has really just stepped in, but our, my work family also has been just absolutely amazing.
Dorothy: And that could really, really make or break you.
Megan: It could.
Dorothy: So many.
Megan: And several of the doctors at CLS took care of my husband. They still check on me and, um, it’s, it’s another form of family that I think is really important for, you know, people who, who work, you know? Being, I spend more time at work than I probably do at home these days and, and even before my husband passed, you know, work is where you, you know, it’s a separate family.
Dorothy: It is a separate family. Yeah. And did you have any, of course, your doc, you had doctors there caring for him, but did you find yourself saying, I need some time, or did you have to stand up for yourself, even though they, you had total cooperation. Did you find yourself having to do that?
Megan: I took a couple weeks, um, but I, and [00:15:00] I’ve, I’ve eased back in. But the, the Dr. Bob and Dr. Dwe and the entire, uh, CLS staff, they’ve been very good about, um, you know, letting me. Work. Work is what kind of brings me back to my center.
Dorothy: Right.
Megan: Also. And so I probably came back sooner than I should have, but it brought some normalcy to my life. And, and that was something that I think I needed, I think the boys needed to see that we do have to get up and move on, which is tough, but you have to stay, you know, active and, and keep doing what you’re doing.
Dorothy: And having those routines.
Megan: Yes. Very important.
Dorothy: Give us Yes. Some kind of structure. When we feel like the ground has moved beneath our feet.
Megan: Right? Yes. And anyone who knows me has worked with me, knows. I’m very structured, so we had to get back to that for sure.
Dorothy: Yeah. Yeah. So how do you help other women get through something like what you’ve gone through?
Megan: You know, it’s interesting. There are several women in my community who we’ve all lost our husbands around the same time in the last couple of [00:16:00] years.
Dorothy: Really?
Megan: And, and we, we meet for dinner, we talk, uh, we check on each other regularly. Um, we let each other rant whenever we’ve had a bad day. Uh, we cry with each other when needed. We support each other, check on each other’s kids. I think it’s important to have a community who, um, has seen what what you’ve been through has, has been through it. Maybe in, you know, different aspects. You know, people pass away for different reasons, but it’s the, um it’s, it’s the beauty of a community that I think is so important.
Dorothy: And we’re hearing so much about that. You know, people often need to just realize that you can find these communities. Yeah. Even if they’re not right there. There are communities online. There are, there are so, so many different ways, but it starts with being able to reach out.
Megan: Yes.
Dorothy: And that’s hard.
Megan: It is. Yeah.
Dorothy: It’s you, you have a persona of, Hey, I’m in charge here and you know I’m gonna take care of everything.
Megan: Yes.
Dorothy: But sometimes [00:17:00] we’ve, we need to remember, we need to have someone taking care of us.
Megan: And that, that’s been a challenge for me is to be able to say, I need to step away for a minute and, you know just kind of take a breather. Um, I’ve always gone, I’ve always worked since I was 15 years old. You know, that’s something my parents instilled in me. You, you work, you work hard. I had a very, um, all the women in my, in my life and my family are very strong women and they’ve all held different types of positions or different jobs, but they’ve always um, you know, worked hard. And they instilled that in me. And, and you know, I came from a family business where you, you know, you work if you’re not, if you’re at work and you’re not working, you’re stealing.
Dorothy: Yeah. Right.
Megan: And so they, you know, I think that’s been helpful for me to, you know, have that type of upbringing to, to be strong and to be, and you know, what I am right now as the CEO of, of CLS, it is a man’s world.
Dorothy: Alright. How do you, how do you navigate that? Come on now.
Megan: No, that’s, that’s a good question. It’s one that I like actually. Like I said, I was raised with a lot of, um, really strong women. [00:18:00] But I learned at an early age. It was my first job and I was in Longview, Texas working at a, a tV company or a radio company, I’m sorry, selling radio advertising. And my first day, you know, I’m this bubbly little girl that just graduated college, never had a, you know, uh, a real job. I’d had other jobs, but I walk in and, um, I had these accounts that were given to me and this man just walked into our meeting and said, nah, I’m gonna take those accounts from you. I’ve been here longer. And he kind, I said, well, these are mine. You know, I’m trying to be nice. And he said, no. They’re mine now, sweetie.
And he walked out and I called my grandfather and I said, Papa, you will not believe what just happened. It’s my first day I got these accounts. And this man said, these are mine, sweetie. And he walked out and he said, Megan, you are Allegio. That’s my maiden name. You go back in there. He said, because if you don’t fight for yourself now, you’ll be run over the rest of your life as a woman. So you walk in there and you tell them those are your accounts and you’re taking them back and you stand your [00:19:00] ground. Or you might as well pack up your stuff and go home.
Dorothy: Wow.
Megan: And I said, well, how do I do that? He goes, you need to figure it out. And so I walked in and I did. I said exactly what he told me to say and the guy just kind of smiled and said, well, you passed your first test.
Dorothy: Oh my goodness. Really?
Megan: Yes. And um, it was. It was a turning point for me, a very early age to learn that I had to stand up for myself where you can get run over. And I think men and women, both, it just depends on, you know, you, you can stand up for yourself without being disrespectful or rude, or to come across as arrogant, but you have to stand up for what you believe in.
And I think particularly for women in, you know, different industries, it’s sometimes hard to do that where you feel like you might be stepping on people’s toes, but you have to be, you know, um, you, you have to be confident, but you also have to know your, you know, your industry. You have to be knowledgeable in, in what you’re doing, or you can get caught in a different situation also.
Dorothy: Oh, absolutely.
Megan: Absolutely.
Dorothy: So the, um, [00:20:00] now you’re, you have all boys, right?
Megan: I do.
Dorothy: So how have you groomed them for working in this kind of world with women right by their side?
Megan: So. I, I love watching my boys with their girlfriends, or my oldest is married. Uh, they’re all very sweet with their wives. They all, you know, but they let their wives, you know, be themselves also, which I love to see.
Uh, but I, I, I’m happy to see that they all date girls too, who are very confident, who will stand their ground. Who, um, a couple of them are teachers and then a couple of them are still in college. Uh, but i, I always wanna watch and, and make comments to the boys here and there about how to be a respectful husband as they grow older. And I think it’s good to see, they got to see how my husband treated me. They opened the doors for their, their wives and girlfriends. They take good care of’em, but they are, um, they let them be themselves too, which is good.
Dorothy: And your husband was very supportive of [00:21:00] your working?
Megan: He loved it. Yes.
Dorothy: And you worked very hard during those that time. I know.
Megan: Yeah. Uhhuh.
Dorothy: So how did you juggle? Just trying to have time for him?
Megan: We, we were very good about making time for each other.
Dorothy: Mm.
Megan: Once a week we would have dinner, just the two of us and sit down and just kind of reconnect. And in the mornings we always would get up early and talk about our day. What do you have going on today? What do you have? What does the evening look like? You know? ’cause he ran his own business. Also a construction company, which I’m actually running as well right now, um, with his passing. So just something else to, to put on my plate.
Dorothy: And wait a minute, Megan. You go from being in a very high level different kind of world in healthcare to construction?
Megan: Yes.
Dorothy: How?
Megan: Yes.
Dorothy: How do you mentally do that?
Megan: That’s, that’s actually, um, a little bit of a release for me. I really enjoy construction and even through all of the different places in healthcare that I’ve worked, the construction piece has always rolled up under me. So I’ve known enough to probably be dangerous, but not enough to, you know, [00:22:00] do it as a full-time job. But I, we have a great staff there. My husband had just phenomenal employees who’ve been with us a long time. So they’re, they’re helping me through that. But it is, uh, it’s exciting to, to do that as well. And one of our sons, Caden works there. Oh. So he and I get to talk every day now on a work, you know, level.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Megan: Instead of just mom and and son, which is nice.
Dorothy: And what do you build?
Megan: So just general construction on um, more on the commercial side. Yeah. So, um, surgery centers, um, dental offices. We do a lot down the port of Houston. Yeah. So it’s exciting.
Dorothy: Do you actually change your a tire when you go into that?
Megan: I have a hot pink hard hat that’s in my car and some boots that I keep in in the back just in case.
Dorothy: Oh!
Megan: Yeah.
Dorothy: That is so neat. And it gives you some variety too.
Megan: It does, it does. Yeah. And I feel close to Cody still being able to, you know, help with his legacy for his voice, which is good.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Megan: Yeah.
Dorothy: Yeah. So in [00:23:00] healthcare, let’s go back to your job for just a minute. What do you think is the most important thing that we can do in our systems right now?
Megan: I think access to healthcare.
Dorothy: And what does that mean? We say that all the time, right?
Megan: I know it’s, it’s.
Dorothy: But what does it really mean?
Megan: I think it’s ensuring that we are available in all of the different communities around Houston, not just your big cities, but that the communities around and, and having access for these patients that be able to come in and get good quality care. I think there’s places that they can go and the, the quality may not be up to par and they may not care enough about the patient to ask each of the questions that they need to ask. Um, that’s one thing that value-based care does bring to the table. You know, it’s ensuring that the, the patient is, is taking prevention seriously. Um, but you know, that is, that’s something that I, that CLS really is striving for, is to ensure that we get into every, as every. Corner of the city, right?
Dorothy: And I think that geography is very important. It’s, but it’s also that [00:24:00] community minded, uh, aspect of any kind of healthcare. I know with our mobile unit 70% of the women will tell us they wouldn’t have had their mammogram except we were right there.
Megan: Wow.
Dorothy: And I think really, but it is that you’re right there. It takes 15 minutes. You’re not having to leave. You know, all of the things that we as women put off doing. Just because, but also because we have a lot of other pressures, so, so geography and also attitude. Give me any other examples of access to care.
Megan: Um, well those are two big ones, of course. I think it’s the type of, um, specialties that we’re putting in these different markets also. Uh, we do a lot of analysis on what type of doctors to put in different areas. If, if there’s an area that has a ton of podiatrists, we’re not gonna put one there, but if there’s a, a need for rheumatology or endocrinology, of course, primary care, cardiology, [00:25:00] we’re looking to see what the community needs and not just putting something, someone out there because you know, we need to hire someone.
Dorothy: So that’s part of your community assessment.
Megan: Absolutely.
Dorothy: As you’re, as you’re going through.
Megan: Yeah.
Dorothy: And you know, hospitals have to do this all the time. But sometimes I wonder if they’re really taking a look or if they’re following their own agenda and saying, well, this is what we meant to do and here we have this. This assessment that’s supporting it. You know, it’s like really I, you know, because we are asked many times to be that community partner. Especially during that time.
Megan: Yeah.
Dorothy: I think, uh, come on folks. This is, this is not a true community assessment, so how do you think insurance plays into all that?
Megan: Oh, that’s the, that’s the big, the big piece. Insurance makes everything a little bit more difficult these days, but it’s not uh, we at CLS, we, we take just about any type of insurance that there is and we, we push to ensure that, [00:26:00] um, we partner with every insurance company that there is, but you know. Sometimes they make it more difficult for the patients to get in.
Dorothy: Well, when you have to get an authorization.
Megan: For everything.
Dorothy: For everything. And the last year you didn’t. And then if you show up and you’re turned away because you don’t have that.
Megan: Yes. That makes.
Dorothy: Yeah, that has created huge barriers.
Megan: It makes taking care of our patients so much more difficult. It shouldn’t be that hard.
Dorothy: And do you offer cash programs?
Megan: We do. Yes.
Dorothy: And a lot of places will not do that. Yeah.
Megan: Yeah. But going back to the hospital comment you made earlier that one thing about being provider owned and provider driven is that we do not partner directly with any hospital system in Houston. We partner with all of them. So we meet with our, um, hospital affiliates regularly. To see what their needs are and then when they do give us what they’re, we go and assess them and make sure that it fits what we see for the communities also.
Dorothy: Right. That’s good. Yeah. So you’re not tied into to anyone.
Megan: No.
Dorothy: Yes. So what else would you want us to know about [00:27:00] you or healthcare or CLS?
Megan: Um, I think more than anything, this is a time, you know, in our, in the world where we need to take care of each other. Um, ensure that we have the right resources to do so. Partner with the right people who truly have the same mindset. You know, taking care of our, um, our patients across the, the community that we live in, ensure that our communities are safe, you know, and that we are, um, doing everything we can to just be better humans.
Dorothy: That’s so true. That is so true.
Megan: Yeah.
Dorothy: And I think somehow or another, cOVID interrupted that way of thinking. And I think we’re having to make an extra effort right now.
Megan: I would agree with that.
Dorothy: In so many ways. You know, and when you talked about being safe, that really is the base of all of it. Am I safe here? Do I feel.
Megan: Right?
Dorothy: Seen here?
Megan: Mm-hmm.
Dorothy: Do I feel heard? And so [00:28:00] it’s so good to know that CLS has really embrace that and that your patients do feel that way. I certainly do.
Megan: That’s good.
Dorothy: I love my doctors there.
Megan: Yeah, that’s good to hear. And that’s why I love to be a part of it. It’s why I came outta my six weeks of retirement.
Dorothy: A whole six weeks, Megan.
Megan: Six weeks, yes.
Dorothy: Alright, well thank you again for being on our show.
Megan: Absolutely.
Dorothy: We’ll look forward to having you back.
Megan: Thank you.
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