Dorothy: [00:00:00] In the Houston area, Dr. Jenny Bennett was a legend and a force to be reckoned with. She was also a personal hero to many, including me. Today we have her daughter, Melissa Greggs, who is carrying on her mother’s powerful legacy taking over the organization that Jenny created reconstruction of a survivor. And this organization transforms personal loss into empowerment for breast cancer survivors. The interesting thing is Melissa’s work and background in fashion and fashion creation proves that fashion isn’t just about clothes. It’s about restoring courage and confidence.
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Melissa, thank you so much for being with us today. Oh my goodness. I feel like I’m in the presence of a legend and certainly your mother, Dr. Jenny Bennett was.
Melissa: Thank you.
Dorothy: A legend. Uh, and it’s just such an honor to have you here on Let’s Talk About Your Breasts.
Melissa: It’s an honor to be here. Thank you very much. Because you are actually a legend, so in, in great shoes and presents to be in front of.
Dorothy: Oh my goodness, girl. Your mother started something that was so unique and it’s called Reconstruction of her survivor. And I can remember when she kind of first came on the scene early [00:02:00] two thousands. And had such a passion for helping women get through breast cancer in a very different way. So can you describe the programs that she offered?
Melissa: So my mom was. Just a little back history.
Dorothy: Sure.
Melissa: She was diagnosed with breast cancer early nineties. I had to have been in middle school, I do remember that. Um, and. That process was a lot for her. Um, and for her, she was looking for support groups that could nurture how she was feeling after the mastectomy. Um, and she didn’t really get what she needed in these spaces. So from there, as time progressed and passed on, she created reconstruction of a survivor, which was support groups to help women who have been diagnosed with breast cancer, who were going through treatment or who had been, um. Really walk through that process from spiritual to physical to [00:03:00] mental, and that’s kind of how she started.
Dorothy: And she had, uh, groups in so many different places.
Melissa: Yes. So there are currently support groups throughout the Houston area. We have one actually in Lake Charles as well, um, in Galveston. So just several throughout the Houston and Texas area in Louisiana now.
Dorothy: And that was her life.
Melissa: It was, it’s funny, because she was an educator first.
Dorothy: Uhhuh.
Melissa: I found myself going through like all of her documents, right? And seeing that she created, I knew there was a curriculum for the support groups. But I didn’t realize that she created the curriculum until I was going through the documents and seeing that, oh. Okay. You created a curriculum. Okay. You did all of the steps because she’s published books before, but they were math books. So to do all these steps and to think about what women need in a space and to do it is she did it.
Dorothy: Wow. That’s a big leap. [00:04:00] Math to support groups. I mean.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: Wow.
Melissa: But I think if you think about it, it’s still educating, right?
Dorothy: Yes.
Melissa: You’re educating the youth. Um, she taught. Let me see. Since before I was born, so middle school and then she was the first African American woman to produce a summer science and math program at University of Houston to being a professor at U of H. Right? So she’s always been in the space of education. I think it was just an A God’s way of transitioning her right into another space to educate women.
Dorothy: Oh, that’s interesting. Yeah. She had some unique ideas she had. She truly, truly was very open about faith. The importance of God, people prayer. You knew when Jenny talked and you knew that if she asked you something, you had to do it because she was not gonna let you off.
Melissa: That is funny. [00:05:00] Everybody says, everybody says that. That has been the one thing that everybody has said across the board, like, if your mom asked me to do something, I would do it. And it wasn’t that, no, she was pushy. ’cause I can be pushy too, but it was like we felt the calling to do it. Um, which I’m grateful for because now in this position I am in a space of, hey, what does this look like to do this? And people are open to sharing and opening, opening doors for me to assist in ways that I would’ve never imagined.
Dorothy: Right. So for our listeners that may not be aware, your mother died last year?
Melissa: Yes, ma’am.
Dorothy: And she had a very long battle.
Melissa: She, long story short, had open heart surgery that caused acute renal trauma. And knowing what I know now, [00:06:00] it could have been reversed, but she ended up going on dialysis and needing a transplant. I donated to, well, they have a swap program at, well, her Herman, um, I donated to somebody that I did not know. And somebody donated to her and she wasn’t, she picked up a virus and just wasn’t able to fight that. So, yeah.
Dorothy: Gosh.
Melissa: Yeah. Yeah. But she, she fought, she fell safe. She, she did. And, you know.
Dorothy: All through that, even before then, you know, she’d have different things come up and.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: Yeah. That only Jenny would have. I mean, it was like, I’ve never heard of that before, but she had, yeah. But you had to leave your career at fashion during that time?
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Melissa: did.
Dorothy: And believe me. I wish I had saved all the time. She talked about you. I wish I had saved some of those emails where my daughter did this and my daughter did that. And look at what she’s done here. And I mean, she [00:07:00] was incredibly proud of you.
Melissa: You’re gonna make me cry.
Dorothy: Well, no, she was, it was, it was like we were, that’s another thing, like we were supposed to know you and know everything that you were doing and, and how, you know, brilliant was the word she used often with you.
Melissa: So, yeah. Um. I think when she originally got sick the first time, like just with the heart issue. I had just opened, you know, my showroom on Kirby. I was traveling between Houston, Atlanta, LA, I mean, I was, you know, I was in my twenties having a great time with all these, working with celebrities. I was just, you know, it was moving.
Dorothy: Right.
Melissa: Um, I had left from being a flight attendant. I mean, it was just life was happening and I was really excited about it. Um, but she needed me. [00:08:00] And in hindsight, I think she would not have wanted me to stop, but I was like, I can go to corporate. Lemme go to corporate. Let me get real benefits. Let me do all of this space because if I’m away and something happens that’s going to sit with me for the rest of my life. Right? Um. So my thing was always, okay, I’ll go to corporate. I’ll work in corporate, but I’m not gonna stop the fashion. Like, that’s never going to stop. I don’t, I’ll be doing this till I’m dead and gone. And even then I’ll probably be in heaven saying, God, what is this? I don’t wanna wear this. I wanna wear this. I, so I think it’s always, and she’s, she’s never put me in a position to to stop doing it. She never asked.
Dorothy: Mm.
Melissa: It was just me being who I think I am as a child and who I’ve seen her be with my grandmother. Right? Um, so it’s, I [00:09:00] think it’s some learned behavior. So, but it, it was, it was what I did, it was a choice I made. I don’t regret it at all. Um, now there are moments when I’m like, I should have, I could have, um. But it’s all in our choices. And as I think, as long as I continue to move, do the things that I know God has called me to do, which is fashion because how, what I feel about fashion and how it changed lives, I think that it’s okay. Like he’ll give me the balance and the breakthrough that I need when I need it.
Dorothy: Yeah. Speak more on that. How? How does fashion change lives?
Melissa: So I have always been one to really believe that. You don’t have to look like what you’ve been through. Um, and I can tell you sometimes, like, and I’ve been designing since I was a little girl, like I would sit, my mom used to make my clothes.[00:10:00]
Dorothy: Oh.
Melissa: Like we would go to Sakowitz and all the places, but she would make my clothes also. So I paid attention. And then uh, I’m short. I’m only five, one and a half, but apparently somewhere they thought I was gonna model. So I modeled at Macy’s when I was younger. So fashion has always been in the space and I think there was some point in my life where, I don’t wanna say my self-esteem was low, but I was being ridiculed as a kid, uh, really bullied for, you know, I went to majority white schools.
Um, and so it was, oh. You don’t talk black, you don’t interact in the ways that people thought I should. Right? And my mom was like, you don’t, it’s not talk anything. It’s how you speak. And I started dabbing in fashion in that space as a coverup. And it.
Dorothy: Really?
Melissa: It, it, it became a, I don’t wanna dress like [00:11:00] everybody else. Like I wanna wear this.
Dorothy: Ah.
Melissa: Um, and by doing that, it changed something on the inside of me. It built up confidence. It forced me to, I mean, think about it. If you are the person in the room and everybody, ’cause I am this person, so if everybody’s wearing all black, I don’t wanna wear black. Like I’m gonna wear pink because pink is my color. And so it, it, I’ve always kind of pushed up against the grain, uh, always. Um. And just that cocoon of clothing and being able to immerse myself in it kind of created this evolutionary person and, and it forced people to really kind of sit back because then it became. Where did you get that? And then you start seeing people kind of do what you do uhhuh on a lower level, right?
Because nobody can do it like you. Um, but I, I say that to say like you, it, it creates [00:12:00] a space of encouragement for women. And I tell women all the time, you know, if you’re sad, if you are, are feeling well and having a good day, if it may take a little bit more effort for you to put on. You know, a dress or a suit or whatever that looks like some makeup, comb your hair, put on a pair of heels and go outside because it’s gonna force you heels. Number one forces you to fix your posture.
Dorothy: Oh yeah.
Melissa: Because if you don’t fix your posture, you fall. And so I think you add the other components and it, it’s a, it’s a force like you would never know today. Like, I’ve battled depression since my mom left. Because I’m forcing myself, I make sure I put on the clothes.
I make sure, now I don’t wear makeup all the time. I, I’m not a makeup girl. I’m not, but I force myself to do these things because I know it does something for me. [00:13:00] And I’d even had that conversation with my mom. And that’s also a component that we talk about with reconstruction is what does the new you look like? What does that look like? And I, and I do that with my clients. What, what do you wanna feel when you put this garment on? How do you wanna feel?
Dorothy: Oh, Melissa, that’s, that’s really profound. I mean, especially for someone who’s been through treatment or surgery or any of that. It’s real easy to not dress up. It’s real easy to.
Melissa: It is, yeah. But even if you wore sweats, I’m a sweat. Listen, I like a good sweatsuit. I like a nice set. But even if I wear sweats, if I’m just feeling like, okay, listen, I don’t have it today. Y’all are gonna get this sweatsuit, but I might put on heels with sweats. Why not? ’cause it’s gonna force me to stand tall.
Dorothy: Uhhuh.
Melissa: And so I think that’s the space that I [00:14:00] really want women to feel like, what, what do you want to feel in this day? Because you’re gonna have your bad days. You’re gonna have the days you don’t wanna get out of bed. And that’s fine. Stay there. But it can’t last forever.
Dorothy: No. How do you, how do you describe the depression you’ve said that you’ve been in?
Melissa: Mm.
Dorothy: Or how do you know? What is different in you?
Melissa: I, hmm. It’s functional now. Sometimes it’s not, and I don’t wanna say, I think it’s a hybrid. I think it’s grief. And I know it’s grief and, you know, there’s all of these different components to grief. Um, um, but I also know maybe it’s suppression because I don’t, like, I have days I don’t wanna get out of bed.
I don’t wanna be social. I don’t want to. [00:15:00] Because I’ve always been a social butterfly. Like I remember report cards very talkative. She does what she wants to do, right? And, and so it’s all of the things that has, right now I’m in a space where I don’t, and I’m slowly, you know, when you look at the movies and somebody opens up the curtains in a dark room and it’s like, bam, here’s the sunlight.
Um. I feel slowly, like the curtains are opening for me and there is a transition for me now, um, of a new, there’s a new Melissa, right? There’s a Melissa That is, I have my mother. I have always had my mother and my father. Right? So what does it look like to, to lose one of your limbs?
Dorothy: Hmm.
Melissa: And so I, I actually told, when I first came into being the acting director, everybody was so excited. It was a whole thing. I remember the announcement was made at the funeral and I was like, oh, y’all, I did [00:16:00] not ask y’all to do this, right? And everybody’s clapping and looking at you, and it’s all eyes on you. But I was fighting. I was fighting every morning to get out of bed every morning, and I just kept feeling like, okay.
I saw my mother fight and do things when she didn’t even feel like it. And so I know that there are women who are in need of what my mother started. Um, and even just in general, women who are in need of something. And so for me, getting up was my first stance. I, there is no time to to be sad. Now, I I I, I was about to sit here and cry in front of you, right? Like, so is It’s okay.
Dorothy: Oh, you always have times of being sad.
Melissa: Yeah, no, and it happens.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Melissa: But what I’ve realized is where I have [00:17:00] been blessed thus far to always have great mammograms, right. I’m still a survivor in my own.
Dorothy: Oh yeah.
Melissa: Right. And so I, to get back to my point. I had a zoom with all of my facilitators and I went on to all their support groups and I told them, I was like, listen, I, I am not perfect. I struggle. I was like, but some of you have faced the worst news in your life where you thought you were no longer going to be here, and I’m pretty sure you know what depression looks like and feels like in those moments. Please understand that’s where I am currently, minus the diagnosis. Two different diagnosis.
Dorothy: Right.
Melissa: You’ve lost your breast. I’ve given my kidney to a stranger and lost my mom.
Dorothy: Yep.
Melissa: You know, so I, [00:18:00] the depression has taught me a lot about myself. The grief has taught me a lot about myself. And so as the curtains are slowly opening. And the sun is coming in. There’s a part of me that’s like, no cur close these curtains back. And that’s how I know, like it’s real depression. Because close, I don’t wanna be seen. And my mom was very, like, she’d come into a room, she could talk to a stranger, and by the end of it, she can tell you their life story. Yes. In all, like, very friendly. Very, very, very friendly. I, I’m social. But I’m not like, I’m, I’m not like a walk up and say, hi, I’m Melissa. I’m But I, it’s forcing me to grow up and be that.
Dorothy: Oh my goodness.
Melissa: And, and part of my de the depressing person in me is like, yeah, no, I don’t. I don’t want.
Dorothy: So she’s still still pushing you on.
Melissa: You know? [00:19:00] Yeah. She is, and, and I’m grateful for it. I don’t realize the lessons that I’ve learned until I’m in the moments of saying, okay, this is what this is.
Dorothy: Yeah. Well, we need that quiet time, that space To, to even be able to think of those things or I agree. Be open to them. Absolutely.
Melissa: I agree.
Dorothy: But it has been quite a change for you to take on this role. Are you still acting or are you now director or?
Melissa: No, so I will, I will continue to be acting director.
Dorothy: Okay.
Melissa: Part of it’s because my mother’s legacy and so forth, so I’m okay with that space. Um, eventually, I’m pretty sure the board will vote on moving me forward, which I’m okay with that too. Um, and it is, it is a large journey because there’s so much. To learn and not just from the space of being over an organization. But you [00:20:00] have to learn different personalities. You have to learn how to run and I’m a sorority girl, so I’ve sat in meetings and I’ve been on boards, but there’s nothing like this. Right.
Dorothy: Nothing like a non-profit board.
Melissa: There’s, there’s nothing like a nonprofit board. There’s nothing like having to do the grants. Get the funding. Speak to the people that are working with you to continue to spread the message. Then there’s a social media side of it. How do you get the organization out? The, I mean, it’s all of the components.
Dorothy: Oh, yes.
Melissa: All of, and you know, I don’t even know how she did it because it was just.
Dorothy: Oh yeah. It was just her for however long. Yeah.
Melissa: Yeah. And so I, um. There’s a part of me that is so grateful for the connections and the friendships that she has garnished through these years, because I can pick up a phone and say, Hey, I, I don’t, I don’t really understand what this looks like. What, [00:21:00] what do I do? How does this work? But I’m also know my mom. And it’s also kind of been said to me too, this was your mom’s baby. It’s been given to you. But you also have to do how, what you know to do. Right?
Dorothy: Right.
Melissa: So add your spin on it. And so I’ve been going, okay, well what does that look like? How do we, how do we do the thing? Um, and I had a conversation with Chris. And I was like, Chris, she said, oh, you’ve got real big shoes to follow. That’s true. But Chris also was like, but make them your own shoes. And I said at first, I, you know, there’s a space that doesn’t feel. Connected because I think people often look and say, oh, well you don’t have breast cancer. You don’t know. And you’re, by all means, I don’t take away from that. My best friend was diagnosed in [00:22:00] her thirties, um, and her and I kind of often speak on, you know, kind of what she went through and so forth. Um. But I know I, me, me and Chris were talking and I was telling her that, and I said, but what I do know is that I know how to advocate. I watched my mother. And if I didn’t learn anything else, anything, anything else, any, anything. Educate yourself and advocate. And so Chris was like, well, maybe that’s your. You are a lane, right? So you have the foundation, it’s running, but you add these spaces to it and add your touch to it. And so I am learning. ’cause I don’t know how y’all do it. I I do not. I do not. I mean, and you do it with grace and you do it with a smile. And I, I commend you and everybody else who, who has [00:23:00] come even before me sitting in the seat, who, who was doing it because there are women who look up to you and are paying attention to how you’re doing it.
Dorothy: So I, I commend you. Oh, thank you so much, Melissa. But you know, it’s, it’s kinda like what you’re saying, if you have a good team around you.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: That you could ask and that will pick you up when you’re not there.
Melissa: Right?
Dorothy: Yeah. That’s, that’s what I think any business needs. But in the nonprofit world, you’re, you know, you’re leading with your heart more than you are your head, and sometimes that that can serve you well, and sometimes it can lead you in different ways. So.
Melissa: But, but is there a balance? Do you think there’s a balance between leading with your heart in your head? Because sometimes, like I can tell you, I’m a, [00:24:00] well, you gotta spend money to make money. But that’s not always the case in the nonprofit sector.
Dorothy: Oh, no.
Melissa: So how do you go about that? Like how do you find your balance?
Dorothy: Okay, first of all, if we were just talking about women in the working environment, there is no life work balance, period. There’s none. I don’t, I, I used to try Say, oh yeah, someday you couldn’t get the, no, it isn’t. In the nonprofit world, you’re fed with something very different. You’re, you’re supported by, I just keep thinking there’s lots of days when I get tired, lots of days when I don’t want to have to be nice to anybody ever again. But never has there been a day I didn’t wanna go to work.
Melissa: Mm.
Dorothy: And I think that’s a difference.
Melissa: Okay.
Dorothy: You get up and you know that you did something, you’re gonna do something.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: And, and it, it’s not always gonna be right. I tell people all the time, I have some good ideas and some bad ideas. But the ones that work then, [00:25:00] then you know it was worth it. What I hear with you, and I think it’s just amazing that you’re already, and you’re so young already putting all this together. Your talent is that fashion.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: But underneath that was helping women feel good. Helping women value themselves and see The Rose is about breast cancer. Absolutely. But we’re also about women.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: And I have seen it so much. Anytime a woman has an option She can get through it.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: But it’s when we think we have no options and if something like a new outfit can give you an option, then heck do it.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: You know, it’s like I, I am always amazed at all the women I know and it doesn’t matter how successful, doesn’t matter what they’re running. You know, we still need that little extra [00:26:00] reassurance. It makes you feel good that we are valuable.
Melissa: And, and I think that’s important because the world is so quick to tell you that you’re not.
Dorothy: Well, you yourself are quick to tell you you’re not. If we get down to it, you know.
Melissa: That too.
Dorothy: Boy. When I hear myself doing that, I go, that’s not like you.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: You know, and I go back to my ABCs, you are able, you are.
Melissa: Oh, I love that.
Dorothy: Bold. You are. And, and as long as I can get to Z, I don’t have many letter things in the words in that group, but, but that will move me off that track.
Melissa: I like that ABCs.
Dorothy: And, and I’ll say, okay, today it’s gonna be about how I look. I am attractive. I am beautiful. I’m cute. And today it’s gonna be about how competent I am. I am able, I am bold, I am courageous, you know. Whatever words. Because we’re the first voice we hear.
Melissa: Yes.
Dorothy: And, and see, you’ve, you’ve offered women a different way of hearing [00:27:00] themselves.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: What is it you wanna be in that suit? What is it you want you’re gonna do in this?
Melissa: Yes. I, I, I genuinely think, listen, we live in Houston. It’s hot. Right? Um, it’s humid. And so when you wake up in the morning, it is really a, I’ve gotta go outside. It’s hot, it’s humid, I don’t wanna sweat, I don’t wanna do all these things. So, and I have to, I have to look presentable. Ugh. Because that’s really, I’m telling you, even for the podcast, I was like, what am I, my social media post was okay. Do I have to wear makeup? And if so, how much makeup and what am I gonna wear? And so I just started laughing because that was literally my thought. And I said, okay, [00:28:00] it’s hot. I don’t want a suit. I wanna wear something comfortable, but cute business, but casual and it, and how do I wanna feel? I was like, I know if I wear this, my mom was gonna be like, yeah, no. That’s not it. Right? But I think that’s the thing with us women, it’s, I’m sitting in front of you. I knew I couldn’t have step coming in here, coming in front of you. Right. But, so I had to be presentable. Um, but I think we as women have, we are, like you said, we are our first point of contact. And that tape that plays in our head. And I know me, I would’ve never forgiven myself had I come in here. Not being true to who I am aesthetically. And if I would’ve seen any footage or any photos, I would have said, girl, what did you have on? Now I might say that when I see my face, ’cause I have not been [00:29:00] sleeping and I feel like I, I usually go have a makeup artist and all the things, right. But I was like, I’m not, not this morning. But I know, like I might look at it and be like, Ooh, I probably should have gone with my first mic. No, but we are our, we are our critics.
Dorothy: We are.
Melissa: And I don’t ever want women to feel like you’re, like you said, you’re not worthy because you’re worthy of every single thing that you put your mind to.
Dorothy: Absolutely. But let me tell you, you’re radiant. I don’t want you to even worry about that at all. I can see all of Melissa and a little bit of Jenny in here.
Melissa: Thank you. I appreciate that.
Dorothy: You know, you’ve taken on a very big role though with this new organization.
Melissa: I have.
Dorothy: I hope, you know, you can call on us anytime.
Melissa: I appreciate that.
Dorothy: And uh, when you talk about Chris, Chris is with The Rose. She’s our pink haired rapper, what you And she’s been on the show. I just wanna be sure people know. But Chris has her own way too. [00:30:00] You know, we all have our own way.
Melissa: And, and you’re finding it. And I, and I love Chris and it’s funny because I really just met her.
Dorothy: Oh, really?
Melissa: Yes. And, and apparently we’ve met before. My memory, past certain days have kind of gone.
Dorothy: Sure.
Melissa: Um, stress, but. Chris has embraced me as her own. And so when prior to my mom passing, her and I were talking about doing the fashion show and bringing it back and the whole nine, and I said, you know, I like this lady. She’s very spunky.
Dorothy: Oh, she is.
Melissa: And so I, I said, would you honor me in doing this show? And she was like, yeah. And I said, oh, cool, cool. Thank you.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Melissa: Yeah. Because she is, she’s amazing. But I love how she is. Genuinely true to who she is and what her calling is. But I’m learning that in all of the spaces. Like I went to the event that you [00:31:00] guys had recently at the River Oaks Country Club, and I think that was my first time meeting you. And I watched how you graced the room and how you spoke to everyone and how you spoke so eloquently and so confidently about what you were doing in the work that you do.
And so for me, it’s always very encouraging to see it because I am learning and I’m learning what it looks like because fashion is one world. It’s. A world of its own. It can be as loud as you want or as silent as you want, but the war against breast cancer isn’t silent. And I have watched at least every, every company, every foundation, every person who runs the foundation is different. But what I’ve noticed is the women that I’ve seen thus far, it is the, the calling one. Everybody kind of has their own way of doing it, but is the grace in which you [00:32:00] guys do it? That’s why I said I, I watch people. I’m a people person.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Melissa: And so I sit back and watch and I watched. How you’ve commanded the room and how you’ve encouraged people to give. And not only just give, but to also educate and put the word out. We need it.
Dorothy: Listen, I appreciate your very kind words, but I can tell in you we better watch out because you are on your way, woman on your way.
Melissa: I’m trying. Yeah. I’m, I’m, I’m learning. Uh, but I like. There’s a part of me that likes the learning curve. Just a little bit.
Dorothy: Well, thank you so much for being with us today. I just, uh.
Melissa: Thank you for having me.
Dorothy: Oh, I’m so proud of you. So excited about what you’re gonna do. And, and I’m also really, really encouraged the way you’re bringing that value back to fashion. That, that it is, there’s, there’s this fine line that we walk all the time.
Melissa: Yeah.
Dorothy: And yet. [00:33:00] We have to remember we’re doing the walk and whatever supports us is what we need.
Melissa: I agree with that.
Dorothy: Thank you again for being with us.
Melissa: Thank you for having me.
Dorothy: Of course.
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