Dorothy: [00:00:00] What does a pink goat and breast cancer have in common? In this episode, you will learn the real story behind The Rose’s Pink Goat Society and how one woman’s tragic ending meant the life for so many. Brooke Baugh always thought her mother was diagnosed at an early stage, so imagine her shock when she learned at her mother’s funeral, that early detection had not been available to this person she loved more than anything in life. Brooke said knowing what she knows now meant a whole career change for her, and now she has a new life committed to advocacy and service.
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Brooke, thank you so much for being with us here today. Our connection has just been one of my favorite stories, and it doesn’t happen often, you get an email out of the blue that says there’s someone you should meet.
Brooke: Mm hmm.
Dorothy: And that was such a gift for me to have a chance to talk with you back then, and for you to be on the show today. Thank you.
Brooke: Thank you so much for having me.
Dorothy: So Brooke, your, your history with The Rose goes back, do you realize, almost two decades?
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: And lots and lots of things were coming together at the time when you were introduced to The Rose. And I will tell you, in our [00:02:00] life, it was one of the most, um, incredible times, and we’ll talk about that a little bit. But tell us how you first got involved with The Rose.
Brooke: So I first knew about The Rose, my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2004, and you all helped to diagnose her and take care of her, and unfortunately, my mom found The Rose. And it was too late for her. She did lose her battle. My sister at the time was 24 when my mom was diagnosed and she also felt that she had a lump and so started coming to The Rose at that time at 24 and still at 44, gets her mammograms here every single year.
Yes, she’s a teacher and um, an amazing teacher, but yes. So I was first introduced to The Rose by um, my mom’s story.
Dorothy: And now, your mom had retired from —
Brooke: so—
Dorothy: —where was it that she had worked for so many years?
Brooke: So, my mom worked for Shell Oil. She was an accountant, and my sister and I were [00:03:00] grown. My parents were no longer married, and she, um, wanted to do something for herself for the first time in her life. And so, started a small business, went back to school to get a different master’s degree, in something that, you know, was a passion for her. And during that time, found a lump. You know, she didn’t share a lot of her story with my sister and I at the time. What she told us was we caught it early. I don’t want you girls to worry.
Um, she didn’t want us to come to her appointments with her. She said, I want our time together to be happy. And I want to, you know, Yes. And so looking back, you know, we know that was, she didn’t catch it early and, um, it was a protection mechanism for her, not the way that my sister and I would have liked to have had that journey.
But I think that, you know, in hindsight, the moment where everything changed for me was at my mom’s funeral. Dr. Melillo attended my mom’s funeral and came up to my sister and I told us how sorry she was [00:04:00] that we lost our mom and said, you girls need to be vigilant about your annual screenings. And I said to her, Oh, I know because you caught mom’s early and I’ll never forget that moment.
It’s like those, one of those moments where everything kind of stops around you, but then start spinning. Cause I could see the look on her face that what I thought was the truth was not the truth about my mom’s journey. And so, um, she said we did not catch her mother’s early. By the time she came to us, you know, it, it, It had metastasized, not that it was too late, but just said, you know, it was very advanced stage. So be sure that you girls are vigilant about your screenings.
Dorothy: What a moment that had to have been. But now when she told you, of course you’re a young woman. And she didn’t want you to worry.
Brooke: Correct.
Dorothy: But did you during that time?
Brooke: Oh my gosh. So I can vividly remember, um, so I was 29. I had two children working, you know, just the, the tornado of life that that is, you know, I remember her [00:05:00] calling me, you know, you know, those witching hours after work and after school and, you know, all the things. And she said, you know, I want to talk to you about something. I said, Okay. And she goes, But I hear the girls, you know, I’ll call you tomorrow. What’s a good time for us to talk tomorrow? And I said you know, anytime mom. Um, so she called the next day again. Everybody’s rambunctious in the background, and, um, she tried to let me go again.
And I went back to my bedroom and said, Mom, what’s going on? And she said, you know, I I want to tell you that I have breast cancer, but they caught it early and I don’t want you to worry. And it’s like she couldn’t get off the phone fast enough. She didn’t want to really talk about it. I don’t know if she hadn’t processed it herself. If she was, um, overwhelmed by the situation she was in, not having insurance, thinking of the costs potentially associated. Um, in later conversations we had, she used the words, I just didn’t want to disappoint y’all. And those words have [00:06:00] haunted me. That a woman would think you were disappointing your family members by having a disease.
Dorothy: And stop there. What a lesson for any breast cancer. Uh, you know, someone’s going through that. They need to hear this.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: It didn’t help really.
Brooke: No.
Dorothy: You weren’t there with—
Brooke: No, no. Um, I think having you and I both know, and I think over the past 20 years, uh, one of the biggest things that I have learned is that women need a network of support. They need a network of support to help them through this. And also my mom was one of the, strongest, most, um, resourceful and smartest women I’ve ever met. So what also has haunted me is she could not figure out this situation. What were the barriers for herself that prevented her from seeking out the Rose?
Why wasn’t she able to find access for herself? Why wasn’t she having those annual mammograms, you know? [00:07:00] Um, so that was another thing that has formed the trajectory of my life and professionally is that, you know, I want to find all the women that don’t know about the access, and I know you feel exactly the same way, obviously you’ve left an incredible legacy here, um, but what is that? Or what is that about certain women who feel like there’s a stigma associated with getting help or asking for help?
Dorothy: But Brooke, now seriously. You know, we hear that over and over again. Some of the women feel like, well, I have some money, you know, I’m, I’m capable of doing some things, but never understanding the cost of breast cancer.
Totally. Not just the emotional, the physical, but that financial cost. But our society is not one where women ask for help. And I just think your mother’s story, you know, an intelligent, smart, able to go out and start another business, get another [00:08:00] master’s. This is someone who is savvy. I mean, but it’s hard to ask for help.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: And you know, that’s, that is why making access to care is so important in a way that’s non threatening in a way that lets a woman keep her dignity.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: It infuriates me that we would ever, ever think that someone who’s just down on their luck for a little bit doesn’t deserve the same quality of care as anyone, any other woman.
Brooke: Absolutely. And when you and I spoke, There were many things that, um, stood out about our conversation, but one thing was when I was sharing my mom’s story, you said, Brooke, the story’s always the same. The story’s always the same. And it is, you know, and I think that the grace of, but for the grace of God, any of us are one step away from, right?
Dorothy: I mean, losing our insurance, losing a marriage, losing—
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: Our job, whatever that provides that [00:09:00] before we’re 65.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: And can just have Medicare. You know, we, we have so many that are diagnosed in that, that time period that it can mean total financial ruin and you know, loss of everything. But now you speak of a legacy.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: Let’s talk about the legacy your mother actually left.
Brooke: Yes. So, To say that my mom was a special person is, you know, she was amazing. And so I think she instilled in all of us, and we’ll talk about some of those things a little later, but, um, for me, I did not want her story to end, get a little emotional, um, on the IEC floor, IEC Anderson.
I did not want that to be the period to her life. I wanted her life to have a legacy that was positive, that helped other people. And that her disease and her dying was not in vain. That there could be something from all of [00:10:00] that that would help other people, would educate other people, would demystify the stigma around getting help. It completely changed the course of my life.
Um, prior to that, My, um, professional experience was in marketing and advertising, and I’ve been in the nonprofit world ever since. Like you and I talked about, people didn’t come to our elementary school and say, you know, you can be an accountant or a nurse or a secretary or a nonprofit professional. Like that wasn’t a thing, you know, the work kind of finds us. Um, so it absolutely, um, changed the course of my life. But like I said, I had this overwhelming feeling of this can’t, I can’t let her story stop here. I can’t.
Dorothy: What is it that you do in the nonprofit world now?
Brooke: So currently I am, uh, the director of development and programs for the Northeast Hospital Foundation. And we have a partnership, um, with Memorial Hermann Northeast, where we provide, um, not only breast health education, but screening [00:11:00] mammograms, diagnostic mammograms, and ultrasounds. And then the. The most beautiful thing about the partnership is that we have a partnership with The Rose. And so, about 50 women per year, um, we pay for them to come to The Rose to have their biopsy, um, patient navigation, any, um, surgeries that are needed. It completes the patient care continuum. You know, one of the best things I’ve ever heard you talk about, one of my favorite stories is the Rose Kushner story. And you know, you can educate all day long, but unless you provide access to care, what are you doing? You know, I think she said you’re pushing women off a cliff if you don’t. Yes.
Dorothy: Taking to the edge of the cliff.
Brooke: Yes. Yes. Um, so And the partnership with The Rose has existed, um, for almost 20 years with the organization that I, I currently work for. And it’s so wonderful because any donor that we talk to, any person that we talk to, any patient that’s nervous that we’re going to provide [00:12:00] one set of screenings and then leave them on their own, no, we, we then pass the baton to The Rose.
We pay for those patients to have the services here so you all don’t have to use, you know, your fundraising on that. We work on our fundraising for that, um, but we know they’re taken care of. We trust you all. We know that you’re going to take care of them and navigate them into treatment and all that good stuff. So it’s been an absolutely beautiful partnership for years.
Dorothy: And I know with, with your background, you understand the difference here, but when we talk about biopsies, many of our women need an excisional biopsy, which is a biopsy that you have to perform in a surgical setting that the woman is actually under anesthetic and has an incisional. Becaus— and a lot of times those are fibroadenoma which we have discovered cancer in, are some other type of cancer that we cannot just, uh, biopsy in an outpatient setting.
So, those are very expensive. I mean, it involves a [00:13:00] surgeon, an outpatient, uh, surgery center, an anesthesiologist, and those were things that were the hardest for us to find for our sponsored women. We call our uninsured women that we take care of sponsored because people like you are sponsoring them.
Brooke: That’s right.
Dorothy: But that was such a gift. I mean, oh my gosh, we, we had so many women that needed that. And, and it is something that some women have to have before we can get a diagnosis. You never want to send a woman who may have a palpable lump that you really can’t get that pathology from. You can’t leave that there. You know, you know something’s there. So you have to get that definitive diagnosis. And if it had not been for your foundation, we couldn’t have served them. So, you know, it really does take the whole community to do all this.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: It’s, no one group can do it all.
Brooke: No, so if we look at just the [00:14:00] numbers for some of our patients, so if we’re sending about 50 to the Rose a year, about 12 of those women are diagnosed with cancer.
So you have 38 women that are going home with incredible peace of mind, and then you are hitting the ground running trying to save the lives of those other 12 patients.
Dorothy: That is so true.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: You know, people say to me all the time, I want to start a non profit and I always say it’s going to depend on your partners.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: Your success will always depend on who is there to work with you to get this done.
Brooke: Absolutely.
Dorothy: Let’s go back to mom.
Brooke: Okay.
Dorothy: And, uh, you know, that was a very short period of time. I just realized. She’s diagnosed in 2004.
Brooke: And she died in 2005, 18 months.
Dorothy: That, you never expected that, of course, because of the way it was presented to you.
Brooke: Correct. And also I was not educated at all at the time. And I don’t think that, I don’t know if she shared her diagnosis with us. Um, she had triple negative breast cancer. Um, [00:15:00] I don’t know that we, we talked about those things.
Dorothy: Very rare.
Brooke: Very rare. Yes. I do know now.
Dorothy: At that age. Yes.
Brooke: Yes. Yes.
Dorothy: You have to process this in many different ways.
Brooke: I don’t think I processed it until maybe 10 years after she passed away. I think it took me a while. You know, there are certain times of your life where you’re in survival mode. I think when you work and have small children and all the things, you’re in that survival mode of life. Also, I was young, you know, I was 29, 30.
Um, I was 30 when she passed away. And so sometimes life experience gives you the wisdom and the reflection to be able to really process and understand situations. Um, but I threw myself into this work and tried to educate myself along the way. You know, another thing that has stood out to me was if this could happen to our family, and this could happen to my mom, who I viewed as, you know, so smart, strong, and resourceful. It could happen to anybody. And so, but yes, I, you know, I was terrified [00:16:00] when she was diagnosed because we had no family history of breast cancer. My grandparents were still alive. My great grandmother lived to be 95. Um, So in the back of my head, I never really thought we were going to lose her. Um, and, you know, before things kind of took a turn, her hair was growing back.
You know, we kind of felt like maybe, maybe, We’re on the other side of this, you know, um, but she had some complications at the end with pneumonia and other things where the pneumonia took precedence to treating the cancer. And it happens. Yes.
Dorothy: The system is so, um, fragile at that point that, yeah, it happens, but still never time to process. That’s, that’s something that I hope everyone hears that, you know, your children, you know, have to go through this journey with you. It is a family affair.
Brooke: It is.
Dorothy: Now, she also left The Rose with a very nice, um, legacy. And [00:17:00] do you know all of that story?
Brooke: I know some of the story. I know some of the story. So after my parents divorced, um, her boyfriend partner at the time had two, um, twin boys and obviously she made a huge impact on their lives as well. She’s a very special person. Um, and you know, after mom died, Mike called me one evening and said, you’re not going to believe this, but the pink goat just sold for, you know, whatever. And it was another one of those moments where I was like, the pink goat, what? Um, so Palmer, his son was very involved in FFA and, um, and spray painted the goat pink in tribute to mom and wanted to donate the proceeds to The Rose. So that is what I know of the story, but I would like for you to piggyback off of that and talk about the legacy.
Dorothy: Again, uh, just like you, pink goat, what? But it started a year before that.
Brooke: Okay.
Dorothy: Because Palmer had sewed had an auction [00:18:00] for his heifer. And at that auction, and he said, this is not, you know, the F, the, uh, Livestock Show and, and all of that in Pasadena, that is for your college education.
And whatever you get at the auction, you apply to that. So when he brought his heifer out, he said, I am doing this for my step mom. You know, I always thought that was so respectful. He never thought of her as anything but his step mom.
Brooke: Yes. Yes.
Dorothy: And he said, I want to give this money to the Rose. Well, this is a 16 year old boy, you know, that is saying, I want to help these other women because the Rose is helping my mom. And that sold for $11,500.
Brooke: That’s right.
Dorothy: So, you know, the first time I ever heard anything about Palmer was he’s got this heifer that he just auctioned off and I never heard his name. You know, it’s an unusual name. And, and then the next year, I, my board member, Bob Domec calls and he is, out of breath, he [00:19:00] is excited, he is in tears, he was in tears.
And he said, Palmer just did this, Palmer just did this, and it’s $115,000. And I’m going, did what, did what? And he said, well, he, he has his pink coat and it just raised $115,000. And I’m going, wait a minute, where, what are you talking about? Some of my staff were at the auction and they were all in tears. And, uh, he literally did. paint poncho pink. And Dixie wound up with poncho.
Brooke: No.
Dorothy: Yes. And, uh, raised all that money. But the, the auctioneer started it with, if this young man can do this for our community and the women in our community, I expect this crowd to step up. And he started the bidding at $11,500. He didn’t let it start at a thousand.
And before you knew it, it was 50, and then it was 75, and oh my gosh, they have [00:20:00] never, ever had anything auctioned for that much money, ever. And again, it was like, that was his college education. Now, Carla had died at that point, and uh, he was real clear, you know, I know my, my, probably was the most, um, modest kids I have ever, ever been. And, but he said, I know my, my step mom would have wanted this. And I know that she doesn’t want anyone else to not have care, to not be treated. And so, uh, he led us on a journey. Okay. From that started the Pink Goat Society.
Brooke: So I don’t know about this.
Dorothy: So we were all in such awe of Palmer. Um, I mean, he, he would come and tell the story and talk to the TV and radio. I mean, he was just, just always ready and willing to do whatever we needed [00:21:00] and someone, it may have been Bob Domec, said we need to take this and use it to create some kind of group that supports The Rose. Again, if a 17 year old could do this, you know, uh, our community needs to step up. And so, you know, For $1,000. Now you got to remember this back in 2006.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: That’s a lot of money for $1,000. You too could be a part of the Pink Goat Society.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: And we had so much, you know, so many things that we created for them. We had a really great donor who wouldn’t let us spend money on like t shirts or any of that stuff. And, uh, we would call together the, the Pink Goat Society in the first year. We raised $80,000.
Brooke: Wow.
Dorothy: In the first year, and that group stayed for about five years, every year, renewing, bringing more in. You know, where we were in 2006, [00:22:00] that was a godsend. We, we did not have Many donors at that level.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: I think we went from 7 to 65 or something like overnight.
Brooke: Wow.
Dorothy: It, it was, and many of them stayed with us. Um, in fact, the lady that was in, involved in that, uh, Ray Senor was just, uh, such a go getter. And you know, like many programs, five years is about to run over.
Brooke: Sure, sure.
Dorothy: But it was without a doubt. One of our most special memories.
Brooke: Yes. Yes.
Dorothy: Just amazing.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: Amazing. And, uh, I know that Palmer went on to go to college and, you know, was a success.
Brooke: Yes. Yes.
Dorothy: So yeah, your mom left a lot of people better off because of her experience.
Brooke: That’s a beautiful way to say it, and I think that was the goal. And that was, [00:23:00] you know, when you lose someone, and I think in, in any way, whether it’s cancer or a tragedy, you know, it’s hard for us to really process what that means.
And, What, where do I go from here? Especially when it’s someone like a parent, you know, you just have one mom and you, you know, it, it just, it just completely changes your life. So I think that for me, and I think for Palmer as well, I don’t want to speak for him, but for me, it was a very positive way to grieve.
And like I said, not make the period end at the ICU at MD Anderson, but have, you know, her legacy live on, but also, utilize it where her death was not in vain, that we’re able to maybe change the lives of some women that, you know, maybe in her place, you know, someone asked me one time. Her mom was a two time breast cancer survivor, and she said, don’t you ever get angry that she’s not here?
And I was like, you know what? [00:24:00] I don’t know if I’ve ever been angry. I’m just more sad. And she said, does it make you angry sometimes to do this work, that someone didn’t do the work before you to save her? And I said, no, that’s never, that’s never occurred to me, you know? Um, I just believe that everything has to happen for a reason. You can’t get, get caught up in that, and you have to do something positive with the Legacy.
Dorothy: So true, but I do want you to remember at that time, we didn’t know a lot about triple negative.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: And, uh, in fact, today when, when we hear that, we go, and then we realize, oh no, it’s a different time.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: So, as quickly as all that moved, it, it’s very hard to find triple negative early. So, you know.
Brooke: You did tell me that when we spoke, not to cut you off, you did tell me that when we spoke and it did give me a little bit of peace and a little bit of comfort, you know, um, because as you do, my [00:25:00] sister and I so many times have said like, well, why weren’t we asking her if she was getting her annual mammogram? Well, we were in our 20s, you know.
Dorothy: You weren’t thinking of that, no.
Brooke: So, um, yes.
Dorothy: And honestly, she was what, 50ish?
Brooke: She was 48.
Dorothy: 48.
Brooke: Yeah, which was diagnosed.
Dorothy: She might have had two or three, she might have had none. But at that time, again, you know, 20 years ago, women, that wasn’t top of mind.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: So, and like you said, especially if you find yourself without insurance, it may be the time that, you know, you’re coming with it. You’re not going to think too much about it. So I, I know you talked about your sister’s come ever since then.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: Anything else that you or your sister have done to uh, be real aware of your risk?
Brooke: Oh, definitely. Yes. So we’re vigilant about those annual screenings. We both, um, had genetic testing. We’re both negative for the gene.
Dorothy: All good. All good.
Brooke: Yes. All good things. And yeah, I think personally that’s it. I try [00:26:00] to um, You know, live a healthy lifestyle. Reducing stress is the main thing that I need to work on. But yes, stress reduction.
Dorothy: I, I sincerely believe my personal opinion only is that the world we live in today doesn’t allow as much time to get rid of that.
Brooke: Mm-Hmm.
Dorothy: And that takes such a toll on our bodies. It does. It’s just, it is.
Brooke: Mm-Hmm.
Dorothy: We, we have nowhere to go to knock out the noise to quieten it.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: Yes. Another, uh, thing that I wondered was, and you kind of, you kinda alluded to this. But did you ever think there was anything else that could have changed her course?
Brooke: Besides finding The Rose sooner? Um, I don’t, you know, that’s the only thing, that’s the only thing that really sticks out in my mind. If she had found The Rose sooner was having those annual mammograms. Um, because I feel sure, I don’t know this for a [00:27:00] fact, but I feel sure that she probably hadn’t had her annual screening in five or six years. I think it had been a while.
Dorothy: Yeah, and again, that is part of the work that we’re doing right now to try and change that. And if we do for one woman, then I have a feeling your mom’s up there going, good.
Brooke: Yes, absolutely.
Dorothy: So what is the one thing that you would want to, I don’t know if it’s going to be one thing, Brooke. Something you want to convey to our listeners, leave them with as a daughter and then as a woman who is now in this field working very hard. What, what would you want our listeners to hear?
Brooke: So the thing that sticks out to me the most is for women to put their own selves on their own to do lists. I hear from women who are insured or uninsured. Women that are, um, diagnosed with cancer, women that speak at [00:28:00] events that are insured that say, I haven’t had my mammogram in the past two years because I’m just too busy. I’m traveling for work. My kids are on all these, you know, great traveling teams. I feel like us as women, for whatever reason, we do put ourselves on that to-do list. And we do not make our health a priority. Not everyone, but I feel like it, it happens. Um, so that’s the number one thing that sticks out to me. The second thing is reducing the stigma with, um, needing help when you need it. That’s why these services are here. Get the help.
Dorothy: That’s it.
Brooke: Have that annual mammogram. Um. And then for us all to be advocates, not only for ourselves, but for the other women in our lives. Ask your sisters, your co workers, your aunts, um, Are you having your annual screening? You know, um, And then, you know, other than that, it’s just knowing that the access to care is out there. Knowing that the Rose is out there. Knowing that our program is out there. Project Mammogram for women to go and have those screenings if they [00:29:00] need them.
Dorothy: So important. I’ve never heard it said that way. Put yourself on your own to do list. We all have those. Yes.
Brooke: Yes. I’m sure I didn’t make that up. I’m sure I heard it from someone else. So whoever originally said that.
Dorothy: It’s the first time on this show, so that, that’s a, that’s a record.
Brooke: Yes, because I feel like that is a common thread between women who are insured or uninsured. It’s, you know, it’s not making yourself a priority. It’s not making sure, you know, this same woman, um, that spoke, who had insurance, who hadn’t had her mammogram in a couple of years. Well, her kids are going for their annual, you know, checkups, their dentist appointments every six months, you know, all of those things were being taken care of, but she was not taking care of herself too busy with work, too busy with family. You know, I don’t know why we do that. I don’t, I don’t know why, but.
Dorothy: But it is something where we need to work on changing because if we’re not there our family is not going to get that care. And I so relate to you [00:30:00] as a grown woman who hasn’t had her mother for a long long time. You know, we miss someone they leave. But I think as you get older, you realize there’s no one there for those times when it’s so special or you really just wish you had a husband or any of that kind of thing.
Brooke: Yes, it’s going to make me very emotional. It’s the, it’s the good times, it’s the celebrations that they’re not a part of, but it’s just the daily conversations also.
Dorothy: We want to keep every woman healthy and alive.
Brooke: Absolutely, yes, for sure.
Dorothy: Thank you for the good, good work you’re doing. Thank you for sharing today. I know this was very personal.
Brooke: Yes.
Dorothy: But, um, you said some fabulous things and hopefully things that our listeners really heard.
Brooke: I hope so. Well, thank you.
Dorothy: I really think that, uh, The last thing you said about if you tell your friends, you know, your girlfriends, be sure they’re doing what they need to do. Nobody has [00:31:00] that influence on us like our girlfriends.
Brooke: Oh, no, for sure. For sure. And thank you not only for having me, but, um, for the wonderful work that you’re doing. The groundbreaking, incredible legacy that you all have started and continued here at The Rose. It’s truly remarkable. No, it is. It really is. Yeah. Yeah.
Dorothy: All right. Until next time.
Brooke: Until next time.
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