Introduction: [00:00:00] A million dollar gift rarely starts with fanfare. It starts with someone quietly asking what women in their community really need. In this episode, you’ll meet the donor who funded mobile coaches and backed projects that change lives from Houston to Africa. If this donor’s generosity has inspired you to make a differece, consider making a donation at therose.org.
Dorothy: Welcome to Let’s Talk About Your Breast, a podcast brought to you by The Rose Breast Imaging Center of Excellence and a Texas Treasure. I’m Dorothy Gibbons, your host and co-founder of The Rose. During this season, you’ll also be hearing from co-host Roxann Hayford and others as we bring you stories from survivors physicians, caregivers, researchers, employees, and supporters. These are real people sharing difficult times, celebrations and personal stories of hope, despair, and faith.
[00:01:00] Saint, it is just a delight to have you back today.
Saint: Thank you. It’s nice to be back.
Dorothy: And I, I know that when you talked with us before, we spent a lot of time talking about how you had funded three of our five coaches. Now, you know, most people don’t realize how expensive those coaches are and what it takes to run them, but uh, not only did you fund the coach and the mammogram machine, but you also helped to set up that hub in east Texas up in Lufkin. So, you know, you have been very, very generous to The Rose.
You’ve set up programs you helped us with in 2020 with employees salaries, the coaches, and I love telling the story because every nonprofit CEO dreams of having someone walk into their office and say, I’m gonna give you a million dollars. [00:02:00] Everybody does, but this actually happened, and I know you don’t agree with how you looked that day. But what I remember is someone had called me and said, would you talk to this lady about your programs for the Hispanic community? That’s what all I knew was gonna happen that day. I said, sure, and I didn’t know who you were. Didn’t know. I thought you were just there to learn about those services and so here you come in and you had what I call overalls. You say maybe it was jeans in one of your casual blouses shirts, but I remember a hat and so do some of my staff.
Saint: Oh, really?
Dorothy: Yes.
Saint: Oh, dear.
Dorothy: Okay. And, and you know you wear baseball hats all the time.
Saint: I do. I do. Yeah, you’re right.
Dorothy: But so I, but I had termed it a garden hat. You know, a little with a little. And I, and so we had the coach out front for another event. [00:03:00] We were using it for, uh, a big event. So here you came right in the middle of us getting ready for that, that event, which I knew about. You know, I, I knew I was gonna be talking to you, and so I’m sitting there rattling on and on. I think the other day you described it, I didn’t think you’d ever shut up. About all of our programs that were designed for the Hispanic women. Everything was open to them, whether they were insured or not insured. And then you said something like, what’s on your wishlist? You know, I’m thinking wishlist. Okay. I said, well, we’ve gotta replace this building, which we still haven’t done yet, but we’ve gotta replace this building. It’s fallen down around us. And you said, I’m not into brick and mortar.
Saint: That’s correct. And I’m still not into brick and mortar.
Dorothy: And I went, what does that mean? I mean, I, here’s this woman, certainly doesn’t look [00:04:00] like she’s got a million dollars in her back pocket to me, but she’s going, I’m not into brick and mortar. And, and so I, I think that’s about the time I blanked out, you know? ’cause I’m thinking what’s happening here? And then the next thing was. You said, I wanna get you a coach like the one you got downstairs.
Saint: I, uh, I had really planned on giving you a coach. But I was trying to direct you to that coach, uh, and you finally got there because I do remember saying, oh, that’s a little more than I anticipated.
Dorothy: Yeah. You’d ask how much it was. It was 1.3.
Saint: Yes.
Dorothy: Million at the time. And, and, uh, I, and I remember you saying, that’s more than I anticipated. So what do I do with this? I mean.
Saint: No, I really, I did mainly because you do take care of the Hispanic community. And mainly because they do not have access to women’s [00:05:00] health. And they need it. I was. I was really kind of hell-bent, on giving you a coach. But once I found out that you all serve so many counties and so many counties do not have a mammogram machine or maybe one mammogram machine, I was really glad I did it. But I did it also because I figured you would reach much more people. Many more people. It was more of a bigger picture. You might not have ticked off a couple of things that I, when I look at an organization, I look at particular things to see, oh, let’s see how much money goes there. What does the CEO get? Blah, blah, blah. Uh, but you know, the big picture is what I really wanted. And you all do a phenomenal job. I mean, I just was with a friend of mine and she, she had all these nurses, these clinics on the east side, and she said, we always sent ’em to The Rose, and they [00:06:00] do such a good job.
Dorothy: Oh, oh, good.
Saint: And she says.
Dorothy: Good to hear.
Saint: She goes out to the restaurants and she’s with her friends, and then she knows the waiters and the bus people and the chef, because they’ve all been to the east side clinics.
Dorothy: Oh, that is so good to hear.
Saint: Yeah.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Saint: I, I was very pleased when she told me that.
Dorothy: Well, now this was back when you came to visit. It was back in 2018.
Saint: Gosh, it’s been that long. Okay.
Dorothy: And it, it became our second coach. And, uh, again, I’d never met anyone like you, I’d never had anyone come in and say, I just wanna give you a million dollars plus, but over these years I’ve learned so much more about you. And I think that is the, the thing that’s so fascinating. You. You give to a lot of different organizations you have given. I, I understand. Right now your fund is pretty much gone? [00:07:00] Yes.
Saint: Yes.
Dorothy: But I still love you.
Saint: Thank you so much.
Dorothy: So tell us about these other, these other organizations you’ve helped.
Saint: Well, this is really, this came from my mother and when she died and she left a giving fund, uh, with no stipulations, no parameters whatsoever. So I divided it up into education, medical, and conservation environment.
Dorothy: Oh.
Saint: And so I, I did not go out and search that much as it was more of a word of mouth. Routine. Like one of the, one of the things I do in Africa, it’s called the Women’s Bakery. And this friend of mine, she was over there during Peace Corps times and she learned to bake. And believe me, she’s not a baker. And so she, the women, there were seven women in the village and so they were so excited to see a piece of bread [00:08:00] and so they started helping, but then they started giving the food to the children.
And so she, that’s where the seed was born for the women’s bakery. And they have women apply who have had no education. So it gives them a chance to really do something. They just had seven retire. They have 18 new bakery bakers. They feed 27,000 children a piece of bread every day.
Dorothy: Wow.
Saint: And from this, the ladies come to their place to, because they have a baby house that’s their daycare center, but they named it the baby house and they all have all these dependents and they feel safe coming and the children are there. And then that allowed the women to pay for the girls to go to col- to school.
Dorothy: Mm.
Saint: And because that’s not something that’s done in Africa. [00:09:00] And so from this we have Benny.
Dorothy: Yes.
Saint: And Benny is a young man and his mother was a baker and he watched her mo, his mother, do all this and he’s now one of the bakers.
Dorothy: I know. It’s such a great story.
Saint: He is so excited about it. I talked to Marky about it yesterday and, and he’s just really thrilled. But they have other children that do other things in the bakery too, so it’s a generational thing and it’s helped them bring up themselves. And I mean, most of the first women had dirt floors. Now, those that live in Kigali do not have dirt floors. Those that live near where the gorillas are, there may be two or three that have dirt floors.
Dorothy: Hmm.
Saint: So they, and they all have learned about saving money, so they really, that’s the kind of place that I like [00:10:00] because I just don’t want it to be one thing.
Dorothy: Right.
Saint: I like it to spread out the tentacles, to spread out.
Dorothy: And you shared, uh, Benny’s story, his story of his life that he wrote. He’s 21 years old now. His mother, her first name was Rose, and I thought that was so interesting.
Saint: Yeah, it is interesting.
Dorothy: Yeah. Uh, she worked there for 10 years and retired through the retirement program that the women’s bakery set up. I mean, this isn’t just a bakery.
Saint: No.
Dorothy: This is a, a force, it’s a movement. It’s a changing a whole culture. But as I went through his letter, I was, things just kept jumping outta me. He was only 11 years old when his mother joined. And he was in primary school and once she started working, we were able to have complete meals.
Saint: Right.
Dorothy: I went, [00:11:00] oh my. Then he said he passed his, his national exam with good marks. And he wanted to finish an O level and join the military because he thought that was the only. Avenue for him, jock.
Saint: Right, right.
Dorothy: That was his only path. And then he said, but his mother did not give up. She sought help from the bakery. And then through the support that she received, she was able to pay for my school fees and buy everything I needed to attend boarding school. A saint, you know, here was someone doomed to go into military. His life was gonna be that. And nothing else. Now he, he goes to supportive school. He did great. He’s looking forward to college. At and at some point. But, and one of the things he said was, but because of my mother’s stable income, she always paid on time.
Saint: Correct.
Dorothy: [00:12:00] I just, I just thought, this is more than, more than a story. Then he said he is his first person to go to go to any higher education. He wanted to build a legacy, uh, of empowerment and in return support his mother and his siblings. And then he said, because of the women’s bakery, we always had food on the table and a roof over our heads. We never went to sleep hungry.
Saint: And that is really. When Marky was over there with the Peace Corps, she was in a village where if they had a meal, it was only one meal a day. And she said to me that that’s why she started trying to bake. And, and she said I had to go back and help those people. And so that’s one of them. But I, that, uh, that to me is [00:13:00] something that is an exceptional, because Marky has done so much to just go out of the bake baking line.
Dorothy: Right.
Saint: And teach ’em about savings and teach ’em, and they furnish health insurance for those women.
Dorothy: Wow.
Saint: Too.
Dorothy: You know, that’s something we can’t even manage here in the States.
Saint: No, that’s true.
Dorothy: So it, that’s just a, a.
Saint: Yeah.
Dorothy: Great story. Uhhuh a great, and, and it’s gonna have lasting long lasting effects.
Saint: Oh yeah.
Dorothy: Yes.
Saint: I mean, it’s really a legacy kind of thing. It’s a generational thing, right? Really.
Dorothy: So why conservation?
Saint: Oh gosh. My family has been interested in conservation, not so much the flora and the fauna as much as geological conservation. Uh, so I grew up with the awareness of how important it’s to conserve things. My grandfather was a geologist [00:14:00] and so he had a place out outside of El Paso that he bought because of the Permian Brace Basin and, and also because it geologically it was very intriguing to him, and there’s where maple trees will grow next to maybe a tropical tree.
Dorothy: Oh.
Saint: In that area. So that kind of planted the seed for me. And then when I went to Africa the first time in 90, just seeing the animals and knowing that the population was gonna decrease that really, really bothered me. So in the conservation area, I’ve done, I’ve done some here in Houston and helped them, but I’ve done a lot over in Africa because I just, I would like my grandson, I would like his children to be able to see elephants in lines and wild dogs. And so the way I have done [00:15:00] that, because education is also a part, part of it is that I have donated a knowledge mobile that goes to the underserved areas of uh, Botswana, and this teaches them about the animals.
Some of those kids have never seen an elephant, a lion, or a leopard, and so, and they have where they take the teachers out and they have a three day kind of bush experience so the teachers can go back. Uh, so the knowledge, I’ve given them two knowledge mobiles and it’s full of books. And then what they do is they show a movie in the village every night that they’re in these various villages.
Dorothy: Mm.
Saint: So that’s one. Through another organization I have helped, uh. He’s exploring rivers of Africa, and I have helped him out too. [00:16:00] Actually, I should probably have started to use Carp thing because I bought two cars for him. I bought a car for the Women’s Bakery. I bought a car for somebody else in Botswana one, and I bought a car for someone in Madagascar. And the Madagascar person is one of the world’s leading experts on lemurs.
Dorothy: Mm.
Saint: And he, his name is Jonah, and they had found a mouse lemur that they hadn’t named, and they named it after Jonah.
Dorothy: Oh.
Saint: And they put the mouse lemur and the, uh, Jonah on a stamp, but the mouse lemur is almost extinct.
Dorothy: Oh.
Saint: And he, Jonah is trying to do two model villages. Like, he in Africa, they slash and burn. So he’s trying to teach him to do agriculture like we do rotate the crops. And so, and he’s teaching ’em about conservation and, uh, ecotourism. [00:17:00] And that’s another one where it’s just not one thing.
Dorothy: Right? It’s, it’s the multiples.
Saint: Yeah. I, I really like having multiples.
Dorothy: But what attracted you to Africa to begin with?
Saint: I don’t know if I really ever wanted to go to Africa, but a friend of mine said, we’re going to Africa. Would you like to come? And I thought, well, why not? I know nothing about Africa. And we went to Kenya. And I just fell in love with it.
Dorothy: Oh.
Saint: I just fell in love with it and I’ve been so fortunate ’cause I’ve made good friends over there. And so now when I go, I mean I will see those friends also, I’m a bird watcher. And with birdwatching, you are not in the cities. You are out in the field and you see a lot of poverty.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Saint: So I, I wasn’t a bird watcher then, but that’s the other thing that I really try and [00:18:00] help, even if it’s through education or, or through a car so they can deliver bread or.
Dorothy: Right.
Saint: Whatever. Um, I just feel that it’s important to help the other person who doesn’t have as much.
Dorothy: And so your latest, what do you call it? Adventure in Africa is the, uh, orphan to elephants.
Saint: Right, right.
Dorothy: What do they have now? 38?
Saint: 38. Yeah, 38. This is, uh, the place is named Elephant Havens and they started, what, like seven years ago? Not much. And they are doing a wonderful job. And Botswana has some of, has the largest elephant population.
Dorothy: Ah.
Saint: Uh, and they, I mean, they have just done really well and they’re learning, I mean, like Everything else. Their other, their other orphanages around. But they just are real [00:19:00] special. And I’m looking forward to seeing them.
Dorothy: Oh yes.
Saint: Yes. You know, and I met them at a, a Wildlife Conservation Network expo. And that, that’s an interesting organization too, because 100% goes to the whoever the partner is, and they have 28 partners, so 100% of the donation goes to them.
Dorothy: Oh, wow.
Saint: That’s something that’s very kind of important.
Dorothy: Right.
Saint: In my thing.
Dorothy: Right.
Saint: Yeah. So I mean, I just, I just grew up kind of with you help out and you conser, health conservation.
Dorothy: Yeah. But you have your own way of, of checking out of an organization. You, I’ve heard you talk about that.
Saint: Well, yeah, I guess I do.
Dorothy: When you said you didn’t check all, you didn’t hit all the tick points or.
Saint: Yeah.
Dorothy: Yeah.
Saint: And that happens with a lot of organizations. I am [00:20:00] fortunate that sometimes I can vet people through another organization that already has vetted them.
Dorothy: Ah.
Saint: Because sometimes when you’re kind of in left field and you don’t know anything about it. I needed a little help on that. The one I did in Madagascar, I did through this organization. I’ve done some other things through this organization. I’ve done things through my friend who has the organization in South Africa, so I know that these people are okay. That they’re not gonna.
Dorothy: Right.
Saint: You know.
Dorothy: They’re there for the right reasons and they’re.
Saint: No.
Dorothy: Not just overnight gonna be gone.
Saint: Uhuh, yet, that they won’t be, you know, gone. I will say, uh, I really like small organizations. Not that you’re small. No, I like it.
Dorothy: Oh, we are.
Saint: But, uh, you know, I mean. If it’s a cause is right for me, it doesn’t matter what size the organization is.
Dorothy: Right.
Saint: But I [00:21:00] feel like there’s so many organizations that need seed money. Like I gave the seed money for the, the knowledge mobiles. And then my friend got a million dollar grant from Rolex.
Dorothy: Wow.
Saint: So, and they supplied all the things.
Dorothy: But someone had to believe in him first. Well, it, it was like the program that you helped start here, that mammogram to medical home.
Saint: Yeah.
Dorothy: And it was the second time I ever had really got to visit with you. Maybe third, fourth, but we’d had lunch and I was disappointed that, uh, one of our proposals had been turned down. I don’t even know if you remember that. And I was just talking.
Saint: Oh, no.
Dorothy: You know, and because, you know. If you’d already done the coach. I mean, my gosh, you know, I didn’t expect anything else, but it was 2019. I mean, it was a year later, so it may been one of those first [00:22:00] times, and I was talking about how so many of our uninsured women do not have a doctor.
Saint: Right.
Dorothy: It’s just that simple. And you know, we all think, oh well they go to the community clinic or some low income, that’s still money. It still means if you’re gonna go get a referral, it could be 50 bucks just to go get that. And that’s too much. I mean, just for referral.
Saint: Yeah, absolutely.
Dorothy: So I was, I was complaining that, uh, there had to be a better way and that we had this idea of starting up. Uh, mammogram to medical home, which meant that we weren’t gonna just do mammograms. We were gonna get ’em into some kind of medical home fit their location fit their needs and had a program that they could actually afford. And so, and it’s run by a nurse practitioner. So who, who has to report to a outside supervising physician.
Saint: Right.
Dorothy: I always wanna say that ’cause it’s not our physicians. You know, this is a, [00:23:00] this is a very different kind of program and not many mammogram places would even think of this.
Saint: Absolutely.
Dorothy: And, and you know, there’s not many free standing ones like The Rose anyway, but still it, that’s not a pathway for For any of this. And, uh, I, I remember trying to sell this program to a couple of others and I’d say sometimes I have good ideas. Sometimes I don’t have good ideas. I don’t know if this is gonna be a good one or, or not, but I knew it was a need.
Saint: Right, absolutely.
Dorothy: And, and as I’m telling you it, then you do it again. Now, how much would that program cost? And I said, oh, I mean, it was like huge. It was like 1.8 or something huge. You know, in my mind, and I, I’m trying to remember exactly how you said it, but it was something like, well, I might not could do all of that. I’m like, I’m not asking you to do anything. I was just telling you a story. But that’s [00:24:00] how, that’s, that’s what appealed to you was it was new. You knew we could support it. We could be behind it.
Saint: Well, the other thing is that it was making their lives.
Dorothy: Yes.
Saint: So much easier and less scary.
Dorothy: Oh, yes. Oh yes.
Saint: And And that’s so important. I mean, yeah.
Dorothy: And you know, I guess of all the programs we have, that’s the one that we’ve seen more breast cancer come outta. So.
Saint: That’s not a surprise.
Dorothy: You know, in the beginning I thought, again, I don’t always think these things true, but I thought, oh, we’ll just have women lined up to have their screeners. Well, no, nobody wants to get screened. But when you got a lump sitting there and you don’t have a doctor to go to.
Saint: You want screen.
Dorothy: And you don’t know where to turn. Yes, it has. It has been day and night for us.
Saint: Well, and that’s, I mean, that’s what I loved about your organization is that you help these people.
Dorothy: Mm.
Saint: And I, I, I was raised that we [00:25:00] help, doesn’t matter what you are, what skin color, what hair you have. But I was raised, you always treat people with kindness and respect, and you help out those that are unable to help themselves. So that’s what appealed to me. I mean, as I said, it was, you touched more lives. And I wanted the bigger picture.
Dorothy: Oh yes.
Saint: For those people.
Dorothy: Well, you certainly have allowed us to expand. You know, we never would’ve gotten that, uh, grant from sea if we hadn’t had all the coaches. Because we couldn’t go but seven counties and then when we had the coach with the 3D on it, we could go anywhere. And most mammography programs don’t go but 30 miles out of the city or I mean, here we are going all the way up to Shelby County and beyond. Only because we have the coaches. And then when you helped us start that hub in, uh, Lufkin. That meant we could go even further because you, you have time limits on all this [00:26:00] stuff.
Saint: Right.
Dorothy: But oh my gosh, so many women have been helped. Thank you.
Saint: And that’s it. Oh, well.
Dorothy: Thank you.
Saint: You know, I’m ready to slide under this microphone, you know, because.
Dorothy: You don’t want all this attention.
Saint: Yeah, that’s right. Oh yeah, that’s right. You know, I don’t do well on that.
Dorothy: Well, and I do appreciate you coming in because you always are very modest. You know about things you do. I, I go to lunch with you and there’ll be somebody else there, and they’ll start talking about another program that you started, and I’m going, what? I didn’t know about that. It, it is just, I didn’t realize how much the women’s bakery had grown. Now I, I, it’s the kind of thing where you just, you never brag.
Saint: No. But I was taught not to do that too.
Dorothy: But you also always know our waiter’s name, [00:27:00] how long they’ve worked there, if they have family. And if they’re going to school, what their, what their major is. I mean, I, if I show up second, then you’ve already got the whole place. Mm. But you are curious about people.
Saint: I am, I’m I, I am curious about people. Always, I, I think I’m very lucky to have curiosity because there always people present something new to me and I can learn something.
Dorothy: Oh, and I’ve seen you do that. I’ve seen you just be so fascinated with whatever someone’s telling you. I think that is a real gift.
Saint: I’m very lucky on that.
Dorothy: See, I live through you dear, because I’m such an introvert. Yes, I can sit here and do interviews and that kind of stuff, but. I’m shy. You’re not. Boy, we just go right into those.
Saint: Oh, no. As a child, I was extremely shy.
Dorothy: Oh.
Saint: I mean, my grandparents wanted me to meet somebody. I ran home and [00:28:00] hid under the bed.
Dorothy: No.
Saint: Yeah. I was extremely shy.
Dorothy: My goodness.
Saint: Yeah.
Dorothy: When did you lose it?
Saint: I got married to someone who dropped me at the door at the party, and I had to learn something. Yeah. I mean, I, I consider myself very lucky that I have such a diversity of friends.
Dorothy: And you do.
Saint: Yeah, definitely. And I’m, I’m extremely excited about that.
Dorothy: You have friends in New York, you have friends on the east coast, you have friends in California, you have friends all over the world. My goodness. That’s.
Saint: Yeah. I’m very lucky on.
Dorothy: That’s a real gift.
Saint: Yeah. And you’re gonna get to meet somebody.
Dorothy: I am! So if you had one more cause different than anything you’ve done now, I did send you that question.
Saint: You did send me that question and that’s a tough question.
Dorothy: Oh.
Saint: It really was. I, I mean, I have pondered it and [00:29:00] it’s so interesting ’cause I’ve been doing this for 10 years now. And, uh, things shift. Personally right now, I would like to give money to, like, there’s an organization up in South Dakota and they provide food. Their mission is food security for nine reservations up in South Dakota.
Dorothy: Ah.
Saint: And a scholarship is another one, and the other one is cancer. ’cause many of the Native Americans women have breast cancer, but because of how things are right now, like the food bank lost $11 million of their cut and they’re getting more people, I would probably give more money to like food Bank to the Underdog Foundation to Meals on Wheels. That, by the way, nobody knows practically, but they have Ani- Meals, [00:30:00] which they give to, they bring food for the senior citizens pets.
Dorothy: Yes.
Saint: Which is very important.
Dorothy: Oh yes.
Saint: Selfishly. I would probably, and I did this before, I would probably put more money into, because research grants are sort of disappearing, uh, medically. Because we have that genetic neurodegenerative disease in my family and 15 outta 26 have died so far. And possibly 17 out of 26, I would put money into that. And that sounds selfish, but since it’s a neurodegenerative disease and affect you mentally and physically, it might help find a cure for Parkinson’s or it might help find a cure for Alzheimer’s. Or vice versa. If we found something for Alzheimer’s, it might help Huntington’s. So. I, I mean, those are the two right now. [00:31:00] I can’t think of anything that I haven’t done that I wish I had done.
Dorothy: Mm.
Saint: Because I really have been pleased with almost everything I’ve done. Uh, I did not choose big organizations. I gave seed money, like at the University of Houston. They didn’t have a, a, a fund for the kids to go and, and from the art school and music school to maybe intern one summer, uh, or do competitions. And that’s very important for those people. So I gave them money for that, and I did the same at Prairie View A&M. In memory of our cook, who was a singer and had a wonderful alto voice and she started the choir at her Baptist church. So I’d look for things that there haven’t been helped. But I would say right now it would be food and health, because if you have food and health, [00:32:00] you might be, you’re gonna be able to get along in the world. I know money helps, but if you have the two basics.
Dorothy: Then.
Saint: You can, you can.
Dorothy: Yes.
Saint: Pull your, you can go out and get a job or you can do whatever.
Dorothy: And as we get older, we both, we know how important health is.
Saint: Oh, very much so.
Dorothy: It’s really makes a difference. Everything we do.
Saint: Very much so. Yeah. And I just think, I’ve often told people that I. I wish that my family, it had been a healthy family and, uh, ’cause that’s, to me, is probably one of the most important things that you can have. And I’m not complaining ’cause I’ve had a great life.
Dorothy: Oh, I know you’re not.
Saint: Yeah.
Dorothy: Well, thank you for coming back, for being a repeat guest for all that you’ve done for The Rose.
Saint: Well, thank you. Oh, no, listen, it has just been an honor to to help you because you [00:33:00] all have helped so many other people, so it’s been a real treat for me.
Dorothy: Thank you.
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